Blood dripping from their Fangs

[TLC1ST]

The only thing you have shown me you are good at is twisting the truth.If you would post things that had at least some honosty,maybe people would take you a little more seriously.Even that last picture is not correct.A little bit doctored.You should see if you can get a slot on "Last Comic Standing" On second thought,You an't all that funny!

[JosephBaileyOne]

You said it, Man! Let's kick everybody's @ss, and when we've spent our Great-great-grandkid's last penny on Weapons, Death, & Destruction, then and only then will we be able to say, we've won the War on Terror, Inc.

To quote a famous Republican American, Dwight David Eisenhower, "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals so that security and liberty may prosper together."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_industrial_complex

JosephBaileyOne, he must have been one of those wimps not willing to kick everybody's @ss. What a loser that President was. He must have had his priorities misplaced. We've got all the rights, and the rest of the world are merely our pawns, to do with as we please, whenever we please.

I am STILL WAITING on your response to the fact that Iran has killed Americans for TWO DECADES before Bush took office.

[FoulBreeze]

1979 - Iran Hostage Crisis, Students take the US embassy in Tehran. Ethnics, women, and one MS patient were immediately released. Possibly a result of Power Vacuum left by deposed British & CIA plant--the Shah. Ayatollah, although initially not responsible, uses it for his benefit. Yes, Iran was responsible.

1983 - 243 USMC soldiers murdered by Truck Bomb, in Beirut, Lebanon during Civil War caused by loss of Real Estate to Israel. Hezbollah takes responsibility. Is Hezbollah funded by Iran & Syria's Governments? No one knows.

1985 - William Buckley, decorated US Army Serviceman, CIA Station Chief in Lebanon, according to US National Security Council dies from pneumonia like symptoms, while in captivity, although Islamic Jihad, a supposed sect of Hizbollah, claims they murdered him.

1987 - USS Stark fired on by IRAQI Mirage F1 fighter. The missile had a friendly IFF signal, which never alerted onboard defensive weapons systems.

1988 - cannot find the murder there, I assume it was in Lebanon.

1996 - Khobar Towers, Khobar, Saudi Arabia (see The Kingdom 2007). Massive Explosion. 372 wounded, 19 Americans killed, 1 Saudi. Hizbollah, again claims responsibility.

So, in essence, you claim that Hizbollah is Iran? I'd have to ask the CIA, if what you say is correct. I think it is horrible what Hizbollah has done around the world, and if there is official Government Monies involved from either Iran and Syria, then we should have UNSCOM uncover the relationship and help us bring the parties responsible to Justice.

But I don't think that the majority of Iranians support Hizbollah, and especially their violence. Just the same, I don't think the majority of Americans support the ethnic cleansing by Exxon-Mobil in Aceh, Indonesia; nor Chevron-Texaco's atrocities in Ecuador.

[JosephBaileyOne]

So, in essence, you claim that Hizbollah is Iran? I'd have to ask the CIA, if what you say is correct. I think it is horrible what Hizbollah has done around the world, and if there is official Government Monies involved from either Iran and Syria, then we should have UNSCOM uncover the relationship and help us bring the parties responsible to Justice.

But I don't think that the majority of Iranians support Hizbollah, and especially their violence. Just the same, I don't think the majority of Americans support the ethnic cleansing by Exxon-Mobil in Aceh, Indonesia; nor Chevron-Texaco's atrocities in Ecuador.

Where have you been for two decades?  The CIA?  Good grief, every nation in the Middle East knows that Iran supports Hezbollah.  What in the world do you think the Israeli's have been saying for twenty years?

UNSCOM, how about the US Department of Defense?  Man, you need to come back to Earth.  Former FBI Director Freeh even talked about it in his book last year about the evidence that the FBI found connecting Hezbollah to the Khobar Towers and to Iran.  It has already been uncovered by the FBI, the Mossadd, the French intelligence, Lebanese security, Saudi Arabian intelligence, Jordanian intelligence, where have you been?

I don't know what rock you have been under but I recommend that you emerge from it.  Also, provide real proof this alleged "ethnic cleansing" that not even CNN is carrying.

[FoulBreeze]

Big Corporations and Bush Administration--one in the same.

the State Department said that pursuit of a lawsuit against Rio Tinto, the international mining company, in Papua New Guinea, would harm American interests, and it was dismissed
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E2DC1F30F937A25754C0A9649C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

Keep looking, you'll find more. Multi-National Corporations haven't helped our reputation around the World--of course our reputation doesn't matter, especially knowing the Big Corps will always get away with it.

[grantpk]

Good grief, every nation in the Middle East knows that Iran supports Hezbollah.  What in the world do you think the Israeli's have been saying for twenty years?

If it's true that Iran is the force behind attacks on our people, then why hasn't your hero GWB invaded them instead of (or in addition to) Iraq?  Seems to me that if we had solid evidence we would have taken some military action against those that have caused harm to us.

[JosephBaileyOne]

If it's true that Iran is the force behind attacks on our people, then why hasn't your hero GWB invaded them instead of (or in addition to) Iraq?  Seems to me that if we had solid evidence we would have taken some military action against those that have caused harm to us.

The attacks by Iran and its surrogates was happening long before Bush and the real culprit in the Iranian issues has been Carter.  For it was Carter that set a precedent of lack of action that has fueled their acts ever since 1979.  I would argue that Carter failed, Reagan failed, Bush-1 failed, Clinton failed almost as bad as Carter, and that quite frankly taking on Afghanistan and Iraq at the same time would have worked had the general's after Franks done their job, had intell been followed about the insurgency, and more done to shore up Afghanistan.  Dealing with Iraq and Afghanistan would allow for Iran to be boxed in and action taken to deal the nuts running that nation.

Bush calls Iran-Iraq-North Korea the Axis of Evil.  Well, turns out that Iran had, in fact, been working on nukes and lied.  North Korea is finally starting to dismantle their nukes-that they had also lied about too.  Libya has renounced nukes and exposed the black market network in large part, because of the USA invading Iraq.  Pakistan's AQ Khan is under custody and not able to spread black market nukes.  You should think about that the next time you want to dismiss invading Iraq.  The issue was NEVER not invading Iraq-even the military will tell you that was going to happen one or another, it is all in how it was planned or handled after the invasion began that has been the issue.

[grantpk]

Bush calls Iran-Iraq-North Korea the Axis of Evil.

Yes, and I'm sure that Bush's 'diplomacy' was well received in those countries and made them want to cooperate with the U.S. 

The issue was NEVER not invading Iraq-even the military will tell you that was going to happen..

Oh, so you admit that the WMD issue was only an excuse presented to the American public for what the administration wanted to do anyway.

Back to Iran:  Just like in Iraq's WMD claims, we have  no solid evidence that Iran is developing a nuclear bomb; only suspicions.  Don't forget, Iran has every right in the world to develop nuclear energy -- and even the bomb if they withdraw from the NPT.  We would like them to allow more thorough inspections of their nuclear development activities; however, the more extensive inspections are not required by the NPT, only by the UN Security Council (under US pressure) to establish that their nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only.

I suspect that, had we approached this issue diplomatically instead of 'Axis of Evil' claims and the subsequent saber rattling, Iran would have been more cooperative in agreeing to the extended IAEA inspections.  Of course, this is a what-if situation and we can't say for sure, but the current 'diplomacy' certainly has failed in Iran's case and here we are considering military action against another country without any proof of their guilt.  Thank you GWB!

[TLC1ST]

I suspect that, had we approached this issue diplomatically instead of 'Axis of Evil' claims and the subsequent saber rattling, Iran would have been more cooperative in agreeing to the extended IAEA inspections.  Of course, this is a what-if situation and we can't say for sure, but the current 'diplomacy' certainly has failed in Iran's case and here we are considering military action against another country without any proof of their guilt.  Thank you GWB!

I would suggest you ask all the people whose lives were saved by the invasion.The ones Sodom didn't get to kill.His own people so to speak.You can sit in your confortable house with your freedoms paid for by the blood of the very people you are condemning.The Americans with enough guts to fight a battle.You have the freedom to support Iraq and Iran and all the other terrorists in the world.I for one support Bombing Iran right now!Putting a stop to their BS.If it wasn't for some of the Pantie Waist people in this country that complain about doing anything to protect our own people then maybe I would have some hope for the future of our Great Country.I for one think Sodom Had WMDS.Hell,He himself was a WMD.So whats the problem.Some of these complainers Make Me SICK!
YES THANK YOU GWB, I just wish you had enough time left in office to finish the job,and my hope is we will elect someone with enough guts to see this through the way it should be done.

[grantpk]

I would suggest you ask all the people whose lives were saved by the invasion.

Hmm, I'll consider that.... but first I might want to ask all the people who got killed as a result of our actions.

You can sit in your confortable house with your freedoms paid for by the blood of the very people you are condemning.

I don't recall having condemned anyone other than Bush and his cronies who lied to us to get our support for the war he wanted.  BTW, what have my freedoms got to do with our attacking Iraq?

I for one think Sodom Had WMDS.

Like I've said before, you can think and believe whatever makes you feel good, but that does not change the truth.

[tbluepooh]

You what makes this a great counties, is the fact that men and women can have the discussions like you all are having and not watching over their shoulders for the military to arrest them.
I will support the military for going and doing the job that they are doing.  The biggest injustice this country ever did was to turn our backs on the people who fought in Viet Nam.  I do not like the was the was has been handled but who is the blame for that?
I also feel that if Iran and who ever is holding back the fuel that we need their day will come, because counties that do not know God are been hurt been we can not get to them and spread the gospel.  Who do you think God will hold responsable for this?
My granddaughters ask me yesterday why is America so great (they are 4-6) that is one of the things I told them.  Also that I could yell "Jesus I Love You", pray, and go to church without being put in jail.

[JosephBaileyOne]

Yes, and I'm sure that Bush's 'diplomacy' was well received in those countries and made them want to cooperate with the U.S. 

Oh, so you admit that the WMD issue was only an excuse presented to the American public for what the administration wanted to do anyway.

Back to Iran:  Just like in Iraq's WMD claims, we have  no solid evidence that Iran is developing a nuclear bomb; only suspicions.  Don't forget, Iran has every right in the world to develop nuclear energy -- and even the bomb if they withdraw from the NPT.  We would like them to allow more thorough inspections of their nuclear development activities; however, the more extensive inspections are not required by the NPT, only by the UN Security Council (under US pressure) to establish that their nuclear program is for peaceful purposes only.

I suspect that, had we approached this issue diplomatically instead of 'Axis of Evil' claims and the subsequent saber rattling, Iran would have been more cooperative in agreeing to the extended IAEA inspections.  Of course, this is a what-if situation and we can't say for sure, but the current 'diplomacy' certainly has failed in Iran's case and here we are considering military action against another country without any proof of their guilt.  Thank you GWB!

So, Iran has every right to develop a nuke while threatening to use against Israel and the USA is the mean, old bad guy, huh?  All I can say is THANK GOD for what Israel will do and soon, to remedy Iran having a nuke.

There is not one, single Middle Eastern nation that agrees with your claim of what Iran has a right to and especially Saudi Arabia does not want it even though Israel is the one being threatened.  The European Union and now France, is starting to turn up the heat that Iran should NOT have a nuke.  Iran has been killing Americans since 1979, and yet you want to defend their right to get a nuke.  Interesting, very interesting.

[JosephBaileyOne]

I suspect that, had we approached this issue diplomatically instead of 'Axis of Evil' claims and the subsequent saber rattling, Iran would have been more cooperative in agreeing to the extended IAEA inspections.  Of course, this is a what-if situation and we can't say for sure, but the current 'diplomacy' certainly has failed in Iran's case and here we are considering military action against another country without any proof of their guilt.  Thank you GWB!

First, North Korea is finally dismantling their nukes, in large part to that "saber rattling," that you dismiss.

Second, are you insane?  What more proof do you need that Iran and its surrogates Hezbollah, did not kill 243 Marines in 1983 alone?  You people really need to learn how things work in the Middle East as in don't start that liberal crap about Hezbollah is not funded by Iran, when even the UN agrees that is the case.

Third, "diplomacy" got those Marines killed, a Lt Colonel killed-while there under the flag of the UN, 19 Air Force personnel killed by Hezbollah in 1995 at Khobar Towers, and the list is longer but what more do you need that Iran is guilty enough and every last bit of it was BEFORE Bush came into office. 

Does it ever occur to you dumb-as*** that for whatever Bush as not done right, that since 2002, and the calling out of Iran, that neither has that nation pulled any stunts with America nor has Hezbollah killed any Americans.  I find it very interesting that they had Americans for twenty years before Bush came onto the scene but have not done a da**** thing since he came into office.  Iran has had to ADMIT to using their nuclear program for weapons up until 2003.  That means a year BEFORE they stopped working on their nukes, Bush was right in calling them out as an "axis of evil" nation.  If they had lied before who is to say that they are not lying now?  Answer that one.

[bigdaveray]

I just want to clarify a point about President Eisenhower. He was on American President who had his pirorities straight. He was the Commander of the Allied Armies in Europe in WWII. He was the was the best president we had from 1945 when Roosevelt died to the present. During President Eisenhower`s Presidency for the most part we had peace, low crime, no drugs and people were happy.I grew up during his time. sure there  were problems but nothing compared to today. He was a warrior and the world knew it. He had men like Omar Bradley, Chesty Puller and Curtis Lemay running the military. They could care less about whether they were liked or not, but the world respected  them . He never bombed any body he didn`t have to, because the people who wish America knew better than to screw with him. He would have Curtis Lemay turn their country into a parking lot. We never had anybody who felt foggy enough to attack our country. President Eisenhower was a great general and a great president. It was when we elected the wonder boys that we started having problems and have had ever since. None of the presidents who have followed him have been fit to pull his golf cart. I liked Ike!

[JosephBaileyOne]

I just want to clarify a point about President Eisenhower. He was on American President who had his pirorities straight. He was the Commander of the Allied Armies in Europe in WWII. He was the was the best president we had from 1945 when Roosevelt died to the present. During President Eisenhower`s Presidency for the most part we had peace, low crime, no drugs and people were happy.I grew up during his time. sure there  were problems but nothing compared to today. He was a warrior and the world knew it. He had men like Omar Bradley, Chesty Puller and Curtis Lemay running the military. They could care less about whether they were liked or not, but the world respected  them . He never bombed any body he didn`t have to, because the people who wish America knew better than to screw with him. He would have Curtis Lemay turn their country into a parking lot. We never had anybody who felt foggy enough to attack our country. President Eisenhower was a great general and a great president. It was when we elected the wonder boys that we started having problems and have had ever since. None of the presidents who have followed him have been fit to pull his golf cart. I liked Ike!

Good point but if you were black then there were major, not minor problems.  Otherwise, I think we all should say, "I like Ike."