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[Abracadabra]

More GARRBBAGEE post by Abra ....To all you obama thugs, supporters and surrogates I ask you to read  the following:

Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practice to deceive!

Sir Walter Scott,



Obama (April 25): My view continues to be that the constitution, I believe, does provide a right to bear arms; but that local communities, and state governments, as well as the federal government, have a right to common-sense regulations and firearm ownership [rules.] 

The truth is, obviously, the ban here in Chicago, the ban in D.C. is not keeping the guns out of our cities, and so I'm interested in just figuring out what works and I'm confident we can come up with laws that work ...... (WTF......   What will work! Take them away from criminals!) and that pass constitutional muster and don't infringe on the rights of lawful gun owners whether it's in Downstate Illinois or rural Montana.

[grantpk]

It lists three bullet points:.....

For crying out loud!  The web page you submitted has no "proof" for any of these claims.

Claim:  First, Barack Obama told a group in Chicago he favored a ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.

Response:   No he didn't.  Read the rest of the fact checker and you'll find it refers to a 1966 questionnaire which an Obama aide filled out.  Obama has continually maintained that the aide mistakenly checked the "Yes" box on the form.  Your factcheck "proof" then goes on with:
 
Obama says the answers misrepresent his position. "I have never favored an all-out ban on handguns," he said at the Philadelphia debate.

We can't say for sure if he did or not. We haven't been able to find any evidence that he acted on it if he did. In the Illinois Senate, he voted for gun control, including limiting handgun purchases to one a month, but no attempts at a ban that we are aware of. And he didn't advocate a handgun ban when he was running for U.S. Senate. Still, the reason for the answer on the questionnaire remains unclear.


Claim:  Then, Barack Obama told people in Idaho he was for the 2nd Amendment, in order to get their votes.

Response:  Well, whatdya know.  Abra's absolutely correct.  Obama even today says he supports the 2nd Amendment.

Claim:  And just this month, Barack Obama accused people in rural places and small towns of being "bitter" people who "cling to guns."

Response:  Another case of taking words out of context making it sound like he said something other than what he really meant.  Even the Factcheck page says (in part): 
"Still, while we'd call the mailer's wording a distortion, it wasn't too far off from what Obama actually said."

[Harley Ultra]

Claim:  And just this month, Barack Obama accused people in rural places and small towns of being "bitter" people who "cling to guns."

Response:  Another case of taking words out of context making it sound like he said something other than what he really meant.  Even the Factcheck page says (in part): 

No that is exactly what  he said, and I guarantee that is what he meant. His comments after the Supreme Court ruled on the DC gun ban was that he felt the states and cities should be able to control guns. That he did not see a problem with people owning shot guns to hunt with but banning hand guns was OK. Face it, liberals do not want the people armed so there is less chance  of an uprising when they take all our rights away.

[grantpk]

No that is exactly what  he said, and I guarantee that is what he meant.

Exactly?   Well, yes, but taken out of context.

Guarantee?  Let's look at a little larger section of his speech and let the reader decide:

"You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

[Harley Ultra]

He meant what he said, and he said what he meant. The "context' you speak of just shows he is giving a reason for them being "bitter clingers" not that he thinks they are right to be able to cling to their guns. He is saying it is wrong, but he understands why they would. He clearly does not have a clue. If elected, he will fix it all for sure, anyone who has lost jobs will be turned into dependents of the state, and thus making them indebted to the democratic party.